Sunday, October 7, 2018

Rescue "Lie" from "Lay"


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           Nobel Laureate Bob Dylan crooning "Lay Lady Lay" and Eric Clapton "Lay Down Sally" killed (not ‘nailed’) it. Exercise and yoga gurus since Richard Simmons, exhorting us to “lay down” on our mats, have killed it, too. With our internet world proliferating errors, misinformation, self-incorrections, and typos, it's not likely that the distinction between "lie" and "lay" will survive.  And language is a vital organ—it changes and grows.  The word “cunt” used to be a word to designate a powerful woman—it is now a damning slur.  The word “peruse” used to mean a process of thoroughly reading through—it now means ‘to skim.’ “Bad” meant ‘bad.’ “Killer” meant a murderer, now a triumphant act.  Some changes and amplifications in meaning have been more fortunate, as in “gay,” meaning ‘happy’ coming to mean ‘homosexual’; and “fun,” which originally meant to cheat or deride, now meaning pleasure.  You can check these out at 13 Words That Switched from Negative to Positive and Vice Versa.

The above Spellzone chart and innumerable Googleable sites offer examples of how to distinguish the two main uses of “lie”—‘to tell an untruth’ and to ‘recline’—from ‘lay,’ which means ‘to set something down.’  “Lie” is an intransitive verb—the action does not perform anything onto an object.  Present tense “lay” is a transitive verb—it’s an action practiced on some object.

I understand why the distinction between “lie” and “lay” has collapsed.The problem is that the present tense ‘lay’ is also the past tense of ‘lie.’  So when “lay” is used as a command, it’s a distortion which roughly becomes a past tense imperative—'have lain down.’  (I know—no one under 30 today has ever heard the past perfect “lain” either.)  Past tense imperatives make no sense, are nonsense, as the imperative is an invitation/command to future, not past, action.

Furthermore, the past tense of “lie” is “lay.”  The past tense of “lay” is “laid.” Because the word “down” usually follows “laid”—as in “I laid down the book” (notice that “laid” transfers action to an object, the book), the tendency is to mistake the expression for “lay down,” eliding the two contiguous “ds.”  So what becomes imprinted is another error—that “lay” is the past tense of “lay.” 

To complicate things further, the word “lay” is also a noun meaning ‘a short song’ (although it’s an archaic use) and a position (as in ‘lay of the land’). It’s also what one might get while lying in bed with someone else as in “needs a lay,” or a verb designating what one does there “laid him/her.”

Dylan’s song, if interpreted through the lens of these reflections is a past tense imperative to abed someone—an impossibility. It would have been seriously more textured if he sang “Lie Lady Lie”—with the double entendre of “lie down” and “tell me an untruth.” Every time I hear that chorus, I keep asking “lay what, Bob?  Lay what?”  And Clapton’s “Lay down Sally, rest you in my arms” evokes, for me, “lay down your arms,” as in ‘give up the fight.’ Perhaps that’s the point—lay down your resistance.  But “lie” down was clearly intended—it was just another misuse of “lay.”

When I hear “lay” misused, I also recall another meaning of the word “lay”: ‘uneducated, non-professional, common.’  Don’t be that. 

So when I’m rising up (don’t get me started on the rise/raise fiasco) out of a facedown dog position in yoga class, and my instructor invites us to “lay down,” I fight back.  I will not be rewired.  “Lie down,” I whisper, although inaudibly, “Lie down.”  When I hear the word used in its original sense, I thumbs-up or air-five the person. Perhaps we can still separate the past tense of “lie” from its parasitic twin, the present tense “lay.” Perhaps we can resuscitate “lie” by red penning a misused present tense “lay” when we read it. Repeat after me: 

                  "Lie, lay, lain. Lie, lay, lain."
                  "Lay, laid, laid.  Lay, laid, laid."
                  “Lie down!” “Lie down!” “Lie down! "Lie!!!"


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Visual by Spellzone.com

38 comments:

  1. Brandon Smith

    ENG-3000-01

    “Lie” and “lay” sentences
    1. Paul lies in the sun, intending to sunbath.
    2. The soldier laid down his arms in the face of defeat.
    3. The book lies on my desk, waiting to be read.
    4. She is laying the cookies down on the table.

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  2. Zoe Strozewski

    The drunk lies passed out in the gutter after a weekend-long bender.
    Zoe had lain on the couch watching TV for two hours before going to bed.
    The mother laid her sleeping daughter down in bed.
    My dirty laundry lies in the hamper.
    The cook laid the pizza into the delivery box.

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  3. I lie on the bed to do my homework.
    I lied about doing the homework.
    I laid my unfinished homework in my dog's bowl.


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  4. I lie when I said I laid the chicken down in the coop to lay eggs.
    But I don't lie when I say I lied down while the chickens have laid their eggs

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  5. I Lay my troubles down, just as i lay my head...

    And lie about the time as i force my mind to bed....

    Lay claim on some control, as i reach for books n fables...

    Give up the same control, as my glasses clink the table.

    Yes, lie my body down, suspend my sight for sleep.

    lying and laying still...as dreams begin to creep.

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  6. She had lain all day thinking deeply. Shamefully he laid watching without her knowledge. And I just lay here wondering why they won't speak.

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    1. As I laid the requiem down, I contemplate how little I understand of the uses of this word. My feet are spread, they stare at me as they lie. My head not present, they had lain before my feet. As always deep in thought. Knowing my professor needed me to prove I understand the use of this word. But I lied then and I lie now. It is her guidance that has allowed me to lay this story out. Hopefully, like my mind currently, it will lie there for memory and proper use.

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  7. Maryann Novak

    1) I lie about my age to others to seem younger.
    2) Nick is laying out the sheets for his mom.
    3) Susan laid the dough out in front of her and set to work.

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  8. She told a lie on her professor.
    Tiffany’s mother laid out the sheets on her bed.
    She is laying the dough in the pan.
    He lay down hugging the pillow.

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  9. I lie to myself to get through certain situations.
    I lay down on my bed to relax before going to each class.
    Bob lied to his parents so he could go out that night.
    Cindy would lay in the grass to look at the clouds.

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  10. 1. The reports were lying on my desk this morning.
    2. Yesterday Juan lay on his sofa watching television for three hours.
    3. Becca is laying the cake down on the tray.
    4. I lie on the couch to watch tv.

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  11. Dr. Rich,

    I think that lay versus lie is a more popular issue in language than the two, too, and to and the their, they're, and there misusages. I am 20 years old with my Associate's degree in English yet have never been able to distinguish the two. It is sad because the education system can teach us affect v. effect and the other misusages I have previously mentioned. It has not occurred to me that lay and lie have distinct differences until last week. My structure & origins of the English language class has been talking about this for two class sessions now. My professor's distinction is that the infinitive "to lie" is to recline whereas "to lay" is to put something down. I'm not sure if you find this sufficient or accurate but it is better than avoiding the conversation the way that almost every other educator has with me. I am curious how many educators actually know the difference between the two. You clearly do as expressed in this blog post. Yet I have written countless papers and have never been corrected on the usage and I can guarantee you I have probably been mistaken at least 50 times.

    The English language is arbitrary at times and it changes every day. Being that the two are misused so often, do you think that either form will be acceptable in any sentence? I know that many mistakes of language happening repeatedly sometimes lead to the language itself changing to bend to our lack of information. I'm curious to see if this is one of those things that Merriam-Webster will ever get involved in, dummying down our language yet again.

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  12. May Oo
    Eng 3000*01

    I laid my test paper on the teacher’s desk.
    I am laying the flyers on the table.
    I lied to my parents that I won’t be home late.

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  13. English being my second language is challenging to know how to use the proper words when they sound like the same but have different meanings, as Carly mentions above “lie” and “Lay” falls in the same category as “to” and “two” or “their” and “there” and my favorite one that I can never seem to figure it out “than” and “then” and how to use it properly. I came to this country when I was eleven years old, being tremendously shy as I was, it took me a while to master the English language. As I learned the language, I have noticed that there are many words that sound like each other but means something completely different. With so many words out there, if I don’t really know what the difference between the two different words that are sounds the same, I had to always get a dictionary to really learn the difference because it is important to me what I write will make sense to the reader. Another example, the word “know” is silent but sounds like “no” these words are totally opposite of each other. I had never paid much of attention of lie and lay since both words have different sounds, but I learn something new all the time.The English language can be very puzzling this way, that is why it is so unique!

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  14. It is so amazing to learn the many changes of language, even in our own lifetime. I especially found the change in meaning of the word “fun” very interesting because it is such a commonly used word in our everyday lives. And I never knew that the past perfect tense of “lay” would be “lain”. Most people would normally just say “I had laid down” not “I had lain down”. And that is not even everything about that one word! It gets even more intricate, with just this one word. English is my second language and it really is a hard language to understand completely. I still do not understand everything completely, with all the different tenses, meaning of words, the different punctuations, difference in the phonetic sounds, and rules. There are so many ways to write such a simple sentence and there are so many different ways that you can use just one word! It has been quite a journey to overcome the many obstacles of the English language, but it indeed is very worth learning the language and history of it. I love learning something new every day, to make me better equipped for the many different complications of my academic journey to obtain my college degree.
    Grace Carranza

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  15. Jen lies on the beach
    She is laying out her blanket for tanning
    Here I lay, on my deathbed
    he laid his burdens on the cross.

    I've been in college for 4 yeas, and still manage so screw up the word usage of the two. Had it not been for this post, I'd still be, I actually think i still am. I am a work in progress and grateful for the enlightenment through this post. Now its time to LAY down the groundwork for applying these grammatical guidelines.

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  16. Mark lied about doing his homework.
    I am laying out my clothes for tomorrow.
    I will lie in the sun this afternoon.
    Johnny lied to his parents about his grades.

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  17. It is embarrassing to admit that I still confuse the two. I do not want to point fingers at anyone because if I am not sure about something or I want to know the answer to anything, I can simply look it up. So throughout my life I have just listened to however anyone else would use the word and copy that. That is how we learn a language to begin with, right? We listen to those around us speak and copy them? English is also my second language so I sometimes misuse a word or say a phrase backwards because in Spanish the adjective comes after the noun. For example, “La mesa roja” translated word for word in English would be “the table red”, but this is wrong. So the same sort of issue arises with words. I am thankful for this blog post because now I know the difference so I can avoid ever being the “uneducated, non-professional” person in the room again.

    - Madeline Romero

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  18. It is quite embarrassing that individuals, including myself, do not know the difference and/or when to use the correct terms in regards to the words “lie” and “lay.” In order to use the correct term, I often have to state the sentence out loud to hear if it sounds incorrectly. Utilizing Grammarly, and similar spell check detecting websites, has also assisted me through the years of writing numerous papers to hide my lack of knowledge. It is shocking to believe that I am a junior in college and I am unsure of the terms differences especially because I have taken numerous English courses. I definitely agreed when you stated, “I know—no one under 30 today has ever heard the past perfect “lain” either.’” I find that this statement is very true as I am twenty-one years old and lain is not a word that has ever came out of my mouth as I never knew it was a word. I am glad that I came across this blog post as I now have a better understanding of how to use the two terms in sentences. I took a liking towards the chart that was made at the beginning of the blog post as you incorporated the past, present, and future tense of the terms. As I am an inspiring English teacher, I find that this chart would be useful in a secondary school classroom to avoid the mistakes that college students tend to run into when writing papers. Thankfully, this will assist me in writing and speaking.

    Bailey Vick

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  19. This is the only blog post that has haunted me since it was posted in October of last year! It was honestly concerning to me that within all my years in schools and college, it was never taught properly during any english class -or any class at all. Luckily, now I have this chart that I saved on my laptop, just in case i need to reference back. Reclining vs. Placing something down being is where I would find myself having trouble the most. I remember it now because "I" rhymes with "lie", since "I lie down" is correct.

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  20. Of all the grammar errors that people make this is one that I never hear people complain about. I’m pretty sure a large portion of us use the two incorrectly. The first time I got confused with it was while watching “Roseanne”. The 2 daughter said she was going to go upstairs “to lay down” the eldest daughter corrected her by looking at her and saying “lie down”. It never made sense to me how it would be lie rather than lay. This blog has helped me understand the difference between the two and how to use them. I’ve been using lay and lie wrong all these years and no one has ever corrected me. So how would I have know that I was using them incorrectly. When English teachers make anchors to distinguish the difference between “their, there, and they’re” and all of the other dimes that grinds their gears. Lie and lay seem to either fly under the radar, not bother them as much, or they themselves don’t know how to use the 2 correctly.

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  21. That blog just confused the crap of me. All this time, I never gave much thought to the lie/lay saga. Which is saying a lot for me because I pride myself on being grammatically correct. The purpose of this blog reaction is to reiterate to myself what I just read and repeat in a way so that (I think) I understand it. The graph at the top of the blog helps so much and this is where I think I went wrong. When you mentioned how people have combined “lay down” and “laid down” because of the two ds. This is what I have done in the past. To say - “I just lay down” in the past tense, I would have spelled it “I just laid down” not realizing the difference. So lay is the past tense of lie. So “lie” stays “lie” the entire time until it’s past tense. Then it’s “lay”. And “laying something down” is “lay” in the present and future but in the past it’s “laid.” GOT IT.

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  22. The chart at the start of this blog is very helpful. It is sad to admit but I have only learned about this for the first time one semester ago at the age of 22. It felt embarrassing to think about all of the times I have misused this word in my life. But better late than never, I suppose. At least I never made a song that continuously misused the words! Aside from the "lay" and "lie" discussion I also found the words that switched from negative to positive very interesting. I never knew the original meanings for most of those words and that was a shock to me. This blog is very useful to students in any field and it should be read by everyone, especially the chart.

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  23. Okay, I'll bite. I'll be the closet geek coming out from its shell. This post made me feel a little excited and giddy for some odd reason. There are not many people who know the difference between lay and lie, myself included. In this world of auto correct and abbreviations, it's easy to get lost in the throes of it all. Learning new things can be fun, but as my classmate Louis wrote, it is embarrassing to think that we may have used the words "lay" or "lie" incorrectly. We will be able to pass this knowledge on to others who will become enlightened on their word use. This blog post is incredibly helpful and I will be referencing back to this post every time I have a question about the words "lay" or "lie." Thanks for the grammar lesson! I haven't had that in a while!

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  24. I can admit that I am guilty for holding “lie” hostage and allowing “lay” to live many sentences that it did not deserve. I am not sure why I was not taught to use it in the appropriate way or maybe I was never corrected. It seems to me that most people exchange those two words and simply accept it because it makes life easier. I know that the English language is a beautiful and crazy language and sometimes words are complicated only because time is not set aside for learning them but each word deserves to be given credit to. I understand your frustration Dr. Rich because I too become severely sick when people (especially college students) incorrectly use the words their, there, and they're, or too and to. So I feel terrible that I may have made others sick to their stomachs too, whenever I communicated through the word “lay” and referred to “lie” only when I was speaking of dishonesty. I am so accustomed to saying it the wrong way that I am certain I may still going to have trouble with these words. I will keep this blog in mind, I will read it another 2-3 times until it screws in my head. I already repeated the last part of your blog about 5 times and it did help!

    -Marilyn Hernandez

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  25. I found this blog post to be very interesting and helpful! The first paragraph was eye-opening to me. “And language is a vital organ- it changes and grows”, this quote stuck out to me because many words that we have learned and were taught to be used the “right” way, have different meaning as our society changes. I must embarrassingly admit, (being an English Writing major) that I never really paid much attention to the correct way of using the word “lay” in the present, past, or verb tense. I’m sure throughout my career of writing that I have totally misused the word. I hope no one caught it though…This confusion about the correct way of using “Lay” also reminds me of how people easily confuse “two”, “too” and “to” which boggles my mind because we were taught on so many different occasions in school which one was the right one to use! But, I get it, we can all get confused with the correct tenses of words, especially the confusing ones! I’m so happy I was given the opportunity to read this blog and have been taught a lesson on it. I feel like all of my classes focus on more of the content, rather than the actual meaning behind “words”. This blog was very informative and I will definitely reference to it whenever I feel the need to use this word in my future writing!

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  26. I think this post is very helpful and informative. The chart also helped me to see clearly what form of the words I would use in certain instances. While I think the majority of the time I never struggled with the lie/lay when I was writing, I will admit when I speak I most likely have used the wrong word or form. As mentioned in the post the rewire of words especially in past and present forms has changed the way of speaking. The more people that misspeak the more common the rewire of words occurs. So it is important to be aware of the forms and how to use them properly.

    -April Dolan

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  27. LIE LADY LIE
    LIE ACROSS MY BIG BRASS BED.

    !!!

    Always enjoyed this song, I never new it was such a missed opportunity! Seems uncharacteristic of Dylan...
    For one, I am happy to have the mystery of lie, lay, laid, lain, etc. cleared up. For another, it is the very nature of the English language, in all it's color, colloquialisms and dialects to adjust itself (as you said, many of these are positive adjustments!) And considering that the point of written and spoken word is communication, there are situations in which the blatant neglect of proper usage of words communicates the very message the sender is trying to send! I am playing the devil's advocate here (I hate that expression) BUT, in this specific case of Lay Lady Lay, I wonder if the phrase is left incorrect, as it feels like the way the intimate command would have actually been spoken. There is also the matter of the way the sound flows from LADY (LAY-DY) into LAY. Much more pleasant on the tongue, however incorrect.
    All this to say, it's a classic matter of "you've got to learn the rules before you can break them." Dylan has definitely earned his rule breaking, that little bugger.

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  28. comment by Michael Loberfeld

    In the same way that it is important to know other types of history (local, personal, family, environmental, world history, etc.) it also provides essential insight to know the history of a language; to know the changes and background of how we communicate, is vital. I must admit that I currently know fairly little, but would like to learn more. I agree with my classmate, Olivia, that knowing formality of the rules is enlightening and valuable, even if all of us might not follow the rules precisely in every instance- still, it all begins with knowledge and education. Once we are educated, then we can apply this knowledge. Thank you, Dr. Rich, for pointing out these distinctions in our English language. Since 'language' is something that unites us, it is important for us to know about it and preserve it, in order for our communication to continue to thrive.
    I think I was 13 years old, or even older, before someone pointed out to me that the word "specific" was Not pronounced and written "pacific", as in the ocean! Just this past year, a retired English teacher said to a group that I was in that "may" should only be used when you are asking for Permission, otherwise, she said, "might" should be used. However, my American Heritage Dictionary disagrees and states that "may" can be used to express possibility. Like a lot of people today, I feel I need to get in the habit of using a paper dictionary. It would help my writing and thought process!
    In conclusion, language is precious, and it is about time I open my mind to learning more about it! Thank you, Dr. Rich and others, for fostering a love of language.

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  29. It is intriguing how we often misappropriate how to spell words because we're conditioned to do so by society. I don't make this errors consciously and many other people do not, it's the effect of these errors being so ingrained and culture and the media we view. Words change with time, sometimes for the better or for the worse. Being consciously aware of these mistakes in how we procieve language makes us better writers and more thoughtful in how we use. It is amazing how ignorant I will be of it until it is pointed out.
    - Griffin Bond

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  30. This post has me thinking about all of the other words that I do not use correctly and if there are any in this sentence. Language is so complex so its very interesting to learn the different ways it can be used and misused. Although I am very young i have seen words change myself from being appropriate to inappropriate, vice versa. The overall idea of this post is very exciting to learn and apply to my life.

    -Racquel F

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  31. The chart at the start of this blog is very helpful with explaining the main idea of this post. It is sad to admit but I have only learned about this for the first time one semester ago at the age of 22. It felt embarrassing to think about all of the times I have misused this word in my life. I never knew all of this time that I, and many others, were incorrectly using the words “lay” and “lie.” But better late than never, I suppose. At least I never made a song that continuously misused the words! But that just goes to show that I am not the only person who was ignorant to this word use. It is actually concerning that most people do not know this information and often use the words incorrectly. How can a large group of people just constantly use those words wrong and never get called out for it? There are not many other circumstances when that is appropriate, most people will correct you. Aside from the "lay" and "lie" discussion I also found the words that switched from negative to positive very interesting. I never knew the original meanings for most of those words and that was a shock to me. This blog can be very useful to students in any field and it should be read by everyone, especially the chart that goes along with it. People should know the difference and try to catch themselves when they misuse the words in the future due to the bad habit we have been brought into.

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  32. This is another issue have with the English language using such words as "lie" and "lay". I get very confused either to use lie or lay in my assignment papers. I have trouble with my grammar that my professors point out saying, "instead using this word, use this word" or they would cross it out in red ink and correct the grammar. They say it's best to say it out loud to yourself and hear if it sounds right. I get puzzled sometimes if I know if it's right or wrong, and second guess myself. It gets confusing if stating something that is past tense, then it would be lie or lied down. The same goes for present tense. To me, that's kind of a challenge to use which one; lay, laid, lain, lie, or lied. It's hard to pick which is right to use when writing a paper or poem. Reading this post helps me get a little more about how and when to use these words in writing.

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  33. If I can be completely honest, television has taught me the difference between lay and lie, so academia does not get the credit for this one. That being said, I still get tripped up over which one to use or it will take me longer than I am willing to admit or I will just rearrange my entire sentence just to avoid the words. So maybe it is safe to say I am probably fifty/fifty on getting the proper usage out of each word. It is actually quite funny how often these words get misused, you would think we would spend more time trying to get it right rather than speeding pass it. Then again the English language is difficult for the sake of it, at least that’s what I think. If we can collectively come up with a rhyme to a catchy tune for the proper usage of both words I think it would be something for the ages.

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  34. It’s very interesting to notice the difference between lie and lay. When first reading through the piece, I was a bit confused on the fuss about the two words. I never truly noticed the difference between the two words and that is why I never saw an issue with how the words were used. In reality, it’s comical to see that I have been using the words incorrectly in some scenarios due to the fact I didn’t know that there was a correct way for them to be used. As mentioned, I find myself often times saying “I’m going to go lie down in my bed”. To me, that sounds like proper English and no one has ever corrected me on it. After reading this piece, I realize that that is incorrect. Instead of using the word “lie”, I should be using the word lay. When saying the sentence out loud to myself, I notice how much better that sounds in comparison.
    It’s amazing how many words in the English language can have various meanings and flop the meaning of each other. As stated, the word “cunt” was used as a word to describe a powerful woman. However, the word overtime is used as an insult. I don’t understand why it’s used as an insult today against a woman when it used to have such a powerful message. Overtime, some words stop being used like”groovy”. In a way, it shows how we are developing in a society and giving new meanings to older words.
    By: Caroline Brett

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  35. This brings me back to my days in World Englishes! How interesting one sound can share so many meaning and versions of a word. Honestly speaking, I will most likely make this mistake again ... " 5...6..7 times I lay between the cover of you" no, no no ... "I LIE between the cover of you". That does sound AND looks better. Think I might create a poem playing with the word lie, lay, laying.. all that fun stuff!

    Patricia D. AWP 5000

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